Mass hysteria. Like the Salem Witch trials, we will look back on this in the future and shake our heads in embarrassment.
One feeble guy out of 53 million that oppose Obama care. Not too hard to find a guy like this in a crowd of tens of thousands--if in fact he is a real guy and not an actor. Instead of going to your happy place and celebrating this peculiar man, stand and face the reality that people are angry and there is something afoot here bigger than you would like to admit. Cylinsier and Ellipses you seem to be just as nerdy and excentric on the left as this guy is portrayed on the right. And in a crowd of four or five on this blog you have reached a super saturation compared to the group that marched on DC. Once you get up to fifty thousand in your group then the ratio will be equal and perhaps this posting would carry more weight. Right now you are cherry picking like when you pick your nose for a favorite snot crumb.
Judging from the pics coming out of DC from this weekend, I'd challenge you to find a handful of reasonable people among the sea of borderline retarded folks that stumbled onto a bus to Worshintin.
That's a challenge that will go unaccepted. Why? Because its not winnable.
Sixty-eight percent of Americans oppose what Rep. Joe Wilson said during Obama's speech last week. Gallup did the survey and found people opposed his comment by a 68-21 margin. I'm sure many teabaggers out there will respond to Gallup's survey with, "You lie!"http://www.gallup.com/poll/122942/Two-Three-Americans-Oppose-Rep-Joe-Wilson-Outburst.aspx
21% seems to be a consistent number...people who self-identify as republicanpeople who agree with joe wilson...People that eat their boogers, eat mayonnaise right out of the jar, have had sex with a non-spousal relative, attend church more than 3x a week, think Hawaii is the capital of Kenya, etc...
And of course you must account for the ever growing number of the unpollable - those with no land line and on the DNC list with their cell phone who are probably overwhelmingly liberal, for the most part registered voters and the reason that Obama not only won all the states he was projected to take but also stole states like VA, NC and IL. They've got to count for a few more percentage points of disparity. The so-called invisible majority is a liberal majority.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52602Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in all 50 States, Says Gallup Poll40% say they are conservative (31%) or very conservative (9%)Only 21% say they are liberal. 16% Liberal and 5% very liberal
Interestingly, they did not ask if they agreed with the sentiment. I am not surprised that people think the decorum was breached. No one wants to see the House of Commons routine. But his donations grew at record leaps and bounds. That speaks volumes for what people really think.
That's funny. By actual party affiliation, the Democrats still rule. Also from Gallup:http://www.gallup.com/poll/122003/political-party-affiliation-states-blue-red-far.aspxThe Republicans only control six states. Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, Alabama, and Mississippi.
I wonder how much of Wilson's donations are from insurance companies?
Everyone says they are "conservative." hell, if asked, I'd answer conservative.
Here's the link for Moe's argument about people conservatives/liberals in every state.http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/State-States-Political-Party-Affiliation.aspxActually, I think this is a teachable moment. Most Democrats are not controlled by their ideology, and instead consider themselves moderate. I consider myself a moderate, but I agree more often than not with the Democrats. I certainly am not a "total liberal." Conservatives, on the other hand, are loyal to their party and won't extend their hand to the other side.
Do self-professed conservatives ever actually read the articles they post as defending their assertions? i'm really beginning to wonder.
Shoot, I botched the link. Here's what I meant to post about total liberals/conservatives...http://www.gallup.com/poll/122333/Political-Ideology-Conservative-Label-Prevails-South.aspx#2
Moe, I think you are spot on with your comments. Most Americans consider themselves conservatives when asked questions about the issues. MJ pay attention. Moe gave the link in his posting. Scott, perhaps you should read the postings too. All you guys ever do is insult anyone who argues with you. Not all conservatives are Republicans. When you make comments like that you show that you live in a phone booth. That's just plain ignorant.
You made the same point that I did, Wes... When asked, MOST people consider themselves conservative or moderate... And yet, when the votes come down, there is a much more even split... so either there are a lot of flaming liberals lying on surveys... or the democrats aren't nearly as "left" as what the "right" would have us believe. If you think that Obama is a radical left winger, your eyeballs would fall out your asshole if you every actually met a REAL radical left winger
Moe gave a link to a story about the Gallup poll. I gave the link to the actual Gallup poll that showed the state-by-state breakdown.There appears to be something wrong with the survey when conservatives outnumber liberals in Massachusetts. I have a buddy who moved up there and said they are swimming with Democrats.
Hey Wesley - the pot is calling you on line two.i did read the article to which Moe linked. There was a great deal more to the poll results than one would believe just from reading her comment.
I consider myself a left-leaning moderate and I usually vote Dem...The GOP has moved so far to the right that most moderates just can't vote for them!
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